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By DENNIS HOEY, Staff Writer

Wednesday, November 22, 2006

Amy Dugas A former Waldoboro woman who moved to Tennessee last year after being acquitted of murdering her husband is back in Maine facing probation violation charges that could land her in jail for as long as a year.

A probation violation hearing for Amy Dugas has been scheduled for Dec. 12 in Lincoln County Superior Court, said District Attorney Geoffrey Rushlau. She is being held in the York County Jail after being denied bail.

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I have followed this case very closely, and thought it would be only a matter of time before Amy Dugas violently ran afoul of the law again. Her case represented a spectacular failure of the Maine court system which too often will put political agenda before justice.

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She was charged. She had a trial. A jury found her not guilty. How is that an example of the court system putting a political agenda before justice?

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"60% of the judges in Maine are incompetent." ( R.A.D. )

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Actually , since I deal with the end results of judges deciesons it is really quite
astounding how good our system is. If one uses errors i.e. mistakes in sentences etc. and
appeals it is one of the best systems around. One sees very few convictions overturned
due to judicial error. Application of law might be unpopular but incompetant it is not.
In 35 years and in access of probably 300,000 persons sentneced to my facility I have only seen
three people released that were wrongly convicted. Humurous aside two wee brithers who didn't
mind doing time for breaking into camps since they fiqured it made up for all the ones they did do!
Driving same model car plate number three out five same as perps car,color similiar!

Dan is correct on this one.

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[quote="Dan Billings"]She was charged. She had a trial. A jury found her not guilty. How is that an example of the court system putting a political agenda before justice?[/quote]

The judge made a decision to withhold information from the jury that was a very material fact. The judge could have allowed the jury to hear this information, but was too interested in not offending the feminist crowd. This was a slam-dunk case, but the DV crowd stayed in the background, refusing to voice their tiresome "outrage" because the victim did not fit their public relations model.

The jury was tainted by the domestic violence media message drummed into our heads that women don't commit domestic violence, and will only kill their partner in self defense. As a result, "justice" is perverted in the Maine courts.

Fern LaRochelle, an experience prosecutor in the AG's office who handled the murder trial was mortified by the decision. DA Rushlau has been following the case very closely, and made sure that Amy has not gotten away with anything since then, prosecuting the non-capital charges of police assault, and now thisprobation violation.

Make no mistake, this case caused a shock through the justice system. Even professed feminists in the legal system have admitted that the systematic prejudices have gone too far, and that resulted in an grossly unfair verdict in this case.

I think all it did was expose the bias and corruption that has existed for years.

The legal system in the US has been taken over by the lefties and the feminsts. Look at the Duke "rape" case to see what passes for "justice" nowadays.

Same thing here.

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Bruce, I want you to know exactly what happened that afternoon:

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The first witness called by the prosecution was neighbor Mary Stimpson, who said she looked out her picture window after hearing "a screech, a yelp, a sound like I've never heard before. It scared me; it alerted me that something was not right."

Stimpson said she watched out her window as Mark Dugas ran to the neighbor's house clutching his chest.

"I saw the child running behind him. He was crying and appeared to be quite upset," said Stimpson, referring to Mark's stepson Christopher Hutson.

Hutson, eight years old, is now in the second grade.

Since Hutson was inside the house at the time of the stabbing, the prosecution called him as a witness.

"As difficult as it is to bring a child into the process," LaRochelle told jurors, "we feel he has evidence."

During the examination Hutson referred to Mark Dugas as "dad."

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The child was in the house when the fight was going on. The child was not afraid of Mark, but instead followed Mark, crying as Mark ran to a neighbor's house and collapsed, dying shortly thereafter.

Mark was not the violent one that afternoon. Nor was he the violent one when Amy was arrested and bailed out for assaulting him montsh earlier. Nor was he the violent one when the police showed up on that fateful afternoon and Amy fought them viciously, still in the throes of one of her patented blind rages, biting one officer and damaging the inside of the patrol car.

Nor was he the violent one during this most recent episode when Amy was arrested for assaulting her new boyfriend.

Mark's friends, ex-wife, parents and brother are all unanimous and clear about Mark's character. When Mark's mother, with tears in her eyes, confronted LaRochelle, demanding answers "Why?" Fern looked her in the eyes and said "I know a lot about Mark now. I know there was no way he could have done what she said. I know he didn't struggle or try to fight back, that was not in his nature - it would have been impossible for him to hit a woman. That was the kind of man he was."

But justice for Mark? Justice for a man in a domestic violence case in Maine?

Can't happen.

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[quote="Tom C"]The judge made a decision to withhold information from the jury that was a very material fact. [/quote]

What information?

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[quote="Calvin"]"60% of the judges in Maine are incompetent." ( R.A.D. )[/quote]

Cite your facts, pls.

R.A.D. ??

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From a previous thread.

[quote="Tom C"][quote="Catherine8679"]They can have a memorial for him if they want! I feel bad for him that he was killed like that.

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Yes, but I was intrigued by your idea that some victims are worth more than others.

When I think of the Maine justice system I am always haunted by how it handled the murder of Mark Dugas. I have a personal interest in that case, and happen to be very familiar with it.

Mark was, by all accounts, a very gentle type of fellow. Somehow along the way he married Amy, who was, also by all accounts a very vicious and abusive woman. I have spoken to friends of Mark that remember him leaving his house in tears trying to get away from the constant abuse that went on. And. like many victims - he "loved" her and always wanted to give her another chance.

Things kept escalating. Eventually Amy was arrested for domestic assault - and a restraining order was issued against her telling her to keep away from Mark. Mark appealed to the court to remove the restraining order because he thought they should "work on their marriage". And so, the order was removed. The charge, though, continued to pend against Amy, who was on bail, with typical conditions of bail.

On or about June 2004 Mark received some harassing correspondence from the DHS related to past child support. This was probably a typical threatening form letter the DHS seems to send out to about every child support payer periodically. Mark may have been behind on his child support, so they may have been threatening to take his drivers licence, impound his bank account and put a lien on his house. The letters are designed to get the reader upset so they will do something. Well, what apparently happened was Amy went into a rage about the whole child support thing. She'd go into a rage anytime for any reason, but this is just what happened to set her off that time.

I'd have to look up the details of exactly what happened next, but as I recall Mark went outside to work on a truck or trailer or something. He came inside and went into the kitchen. Amy pulled his shirt over his head and stabbed him in the heart with a kitchen knife. It was not in Mark's nature to hit a woman - even under such circumstances. He ran out of the kitchen, past his shocked stepson in the next room, who ran after him to a neighbor's house where Mark collapsed dead on the neighbor's front step.

The police were called and Amy was still in a rage. She fought and bit the officers, and thrashed around in to back of the police car.
[b]
Anyway, let's cut to the trial. The evidence is overwhelming. One interesting item is that the judge refuses to allow the jury to hear of the previous assaults - even though he could have allowed that if he wanted to. Even so, it is an open and shut case. Finally, in an act of desperation Amy takes the stand in her own defense. No, she says, I did not attack Mark. She has a fantastic story about being assaulted by Mark and terrified, she lashes out with something - she didn't know what, and the next thing she knows Mark is dead. I think there was a cross, and the AAG takes that story apart, there is not a shred of evidence to support it - and everything else - from Mark's stab wounds to where the knife ended up belie her story.[/b]

The courtroom, the AAG and the Dugas family is shocked when the jury comes back with a decision of "not guilty".

Even the most rabid Maine court apologists recognize that something went seriously wrong here.

The domestic violence propaganda - the bigotry, if you will - is that men are not victims of domestic violence - and that women who kill there husbands only do so because "he must have done something to deserve it". (And that is why the domestic violence crowd did not express their patented "outrage" after this travesty - because it would have drawn attention to the fact that their biggest lie is just that - a lie. I did a study of domestic violence deaths in Maine during about 2001-2002 or so - I found that just less than half were cases where men killed women. The rest were men killing men, women killing woman, or parents killing children. But you will still hear such lies as "97% of domestic violence is men hurting women".)

Anyway, at least in the Howard case there was some sense in the justice system that what the killers did was wrong.

In Mark Dugas' case though, the message is "He musta needed killing".

This didn't happen twenty years ago - this trial was just last year. And you won't hear much about the Dugas case in the press, or the city councils, or those who cry for "justice". It is because those very parties are pretty embarrassed about it, and they have, frankly, no excuse.

And when you do see a memorial for victims of domestic violence in Maine, there will be one name conspicuous by its absence.

Because, yes, while all victims are equal, some are more equal than others.[/quote]

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We don't allow the state to convict people of a crime by presenting evidence that they committed other crimes in the past.

Reading the post above -- it seems to me that the complaint is with the jury, not the court.

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Dan, you really don't understand this case.

The judge could have allowed the information about the prior assaults and the fact that Amy was out on bail to be raised before the jury in this case, but he made a ruling that it would not be allowed. He could have ruled LEGALLY that the [b]very important information [/b]could have been brought before the jury.

Also, you are ignoring the second disturbing feature of this case - judicial and social attitudes toward men who are victims of domestic violence - and Mark certainly qualifies. There is NO WAY this case would have unfolded the way it did had the murdered been a woman. As a matter of fact, had a man been on trial instead of a woman we could have expected the judge to grandstand in order to impress the radical feminists that have a lock on the Maine judicial system.

Dan, I know that you are bucking for a judgeship, so I excuse your professed apologist role for the dysfunctional court system. However, if you expect a nomination, I suggest to concentrate on getting some more Republicans in the state legislature first.

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Maine Rule of Evidence 404(B)

Other crimes, wrongs, or acts. Evidence of other crimes, wrongs, or acts is not admissible to prove the character of a person in order to show that the person acted in conformity therewith.

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[quote="Tom C"] Also, you are ignoring the second disturbing feature of this case - judicial and social attitudes toward men who are victims of domestic violence - and Mark certainly qualifies. There is NO WAY this case would have unfolded the way it did had the murdered been a woman. As a matter of fact, had a man been on trial instead of a woman we could have expected the judge to grandstand in order to impress the radical feminists that have a lock on the Maine judicial system. [/quote]

Trials are part of society. One of the weaknesses of the jury system is that the prejudices of the jury members are brought with them into court. That is not a failure of the court system -- it simply reflects our society.

[quote="Tom C"]Dan, I know that you are bucking for a judgeship, so I excuse your professed apologist role for the dysfunctional court system.[/quote]

Every human institution is flawed.

[quote="Tom C"]However, if you expect a nomination, I suggest to concentrate on getting some more Republicans in the state legislature first.[/quote]

For someone who claims to be such an expert on our court system, I would think you would know that judges are nominated by the Governor.

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[quote="Dan Billings"]Other crimes, wrongs, or acts. Evidence of other crimes, wrongs, or acts is not admissible to prove the character of a person in order to show that the person acted in conformity therewith.[/quote]

Dan, it has nothing to do with "showing the charachter of".

Look, stop arguing with me about the legalities is case. Everything is already in black and white. Get the transscript, for crying out loud.

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[quote="Dan Billings"]

For someone who claims to be such an expert on our court system, I would think you would know that judges are nominated by the Governor.[/quote]

Now that you mention that, you are correct. Perhaps I don't spend as much time thinking about it as you do.

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[quote="Tom C"]
Dan, it has nothing to do with "showing the charachter of".

Look, stop arguing with me about the legalities is case. Everything is already in black and white. Get the transscript, for crying out loud.[/quote]

It is black and white. When we put people on trial for crimes, we don't allow evidence that they committed similar crimes in the past as evidence that they committed the crime in question.

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What nonsense.

If a husband was on trial for killing his wife, the jury would NOT hear that he was under a restraining order for a vicious attack? Give me a break. That is completely different from a character issue.

Oh, I get it Dan - you don't want it on the record that you are critical of the judicial system - sort of keeping an opportunity to get "inside" and work for change from there...

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Say no more, say no more...

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[quote="Tom C"]If a husband was on trial for killing his wife, the jury would NOT hear that he was under a restraining order for a vicious attack? [/quote]

Not if his defense attorney was on the ball.

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wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more, eh, say no more.

Hey, what a charmer Amy is?

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A few months before Mark Dugas died, Amy Dugas was charged with assaulting him and a Lincoln County sheriff's deputy at a home in Jefferson. Police said she kicked her husband in an eye and kicked the deputy in the groin.

In September 2005, five months after her acquittal on the murder charge, Dugas was convicted of assaulting the two men.

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[url=http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/061122amydugas.html]Source[...

A synopsis of Amy and Mark's relationship:

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Two years ago, Mark Dugas' life started to change. He married Amy Dugas, a native of Waldoboro who has two children from a previous marriage. The two eloped to Hawaii, came back to Maine and had a ceremony at a lakeside lodge, then began jumping from one house to another.

The couple lived in Tennessee, Florida, New Hampshire and a few towns along the Maine coast, the brothers said. The close-knit Dugas family started hearing less from Mark, who failed to provide his family with a phone number at times.

"He kind of cut everyone off," Ken Dugas said. "I think he knew we did not approve of her."

For a time, the couple lived in a camper in the driveway of Jerry Dugas' house in Surry. He and his wife tried to help the couple get used to life in the small town near Ellsworth, but they never developed a relationship with Amy Dugas.

Mark Dugas became a father to Amy Dugas' two children, said Jerry Dugas, who remembers them always calling him dad instead of Mark. Jerry Dugas said he also remembers seeing Amy Dugas become drunk and violent with his brother. He encouraged the couple to get counseling, but they did not follow through.

"I was just telling him. 'Things are not working,' " Jerry Dugas said.

Ken Dugas remembers similar conversations with Mark. The two brothers talked about the relationship a few months ago, with Ken Dugas pushing his brother to leave. It turned out to be their last conversation.

Ken and Jerry Dugas said their brother's death was a case of domestic violence, but it did not fit the typical image of the problem. They said Amy Dugas, who stands 5 feet, 4 inches and weighs 115 pounds, seemed to be the abuser in the relationship.

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[url=http://www.vawa4all.org/news/Mans%20volatile%20marriage%20baffles%20grie... Source[/url]

Other people talk about their relationship with Amy:

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“When he came back from Tennessee with Amy his entire personality changed,” said [former co-worker] Partelow. “We knew he was in trouble but he wouldn’t sit down and talk with anybody about it.”

[mark's ex-wife] Dickinson said she felt that Mark was being alienated from his friends and family, a typical indicator of abuse.

At several points, Dickinson reported to the Thomaston police encounters she had had with Amy Dugas.

Amy, for example, showed up on the doorstep of the apartment building where Dickinson and her daughter Brie were living at the time. “She went knocking on neighbor’s doors to find me,” said Dickinson.

When Brie called her dad about a school dance one evening, Amy reportedly told Brie that she could not talk to her father but had to talk to Amy.

“That’s when Brie had decided that things were a little too weird for her there,” said Dickinson, who was married to Mark for 11 years.

“I watched this change in Mark. I watched him go from a loving, outgoing guy to a shell of a man,” said Dickinson.

Cindy said that when Mark originally left the state with Amy, “he didn’t even let his close friends know he was leaving the area. He lived for his daughter and he cherished his friendships and poof, it was gone.”

The last time Brie saw her dad was at the Mic-Mac Country Store on Route 17.

“At the gas pumps Brie looked up and said ‘Mom, there’s my dad,’” said Dickinson. “He looked right up without acknowledging us. ‘Mom, he just walked by’ said Brie.”

After leaning into the window of his own car, where he presumably asked Amy’s permission, Mark “came back and he was crying,” said Dickinson. “He told Brie how much he loved her.”

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[url=http://www.mainelincolncountynews.com/index.cfm?ID=11694] Source [/url]

Someone from Tennesse (where Amy moved to) posts to a news blog about Amy in Tennesse:

"Amy Dugas was a manager of a Lavergne waffle house where she could get upset over anything and take that ten inch knife they work with and stab anybody. We in TN do not want her here we have enough crime here keep her in maine by the way she went through a name change and was going by Amy Bowen to get a job here check her record how many other people has she hurt "

[url=http://www.topix.net/forum/city/murfreesboro-tn/T942R4GC6GNFNAJBS]Source [/url]

And it is not just the Dugas case. Vella Gogan, who killed her husband and chopped his body into little pieces and hid the pieces around the state only got manslughter and a sentance of a few years. Or Malia Lowery who shot her boyfriend in the head while he was sleeping, manslaughter and 8 years.

Gee, doesn't look like an isolated injustice to me. I think I see a pattern here.

[img]http://www.mainelincolncountynews.com/images/Article_Images/WALdickinson...

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How terribly sad. :(

I'm thankful for my normal marriage and happy family today.

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[size=24]Judge orders Dugas to serve more jail time[/size]

By Holly Anderson
Camden Bureau Chief

[b]WISCASSET (Dec 12): [/b]A Lincoln County Superior Court justice Tuesday found Amy Dugas guilty of violating probation following her arrest in September in Tennessee for domestic assault.

A Maine jury found Dugas not guilty in the death of her husband, who died following a domestic disturbance; however, she was convicted of assault.

[url=http://knox.villagesoup.com/Government/story.cfm?storyID=83500]source[/url]

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The Village Soup has done a GREAT job of covering this amazing story. Hats off to them. The leftie papers hate it, because it goes against their propaganda and offends their feminist friends.

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[size=18]Quarrel Lands Dugas in Jail, Awaits Extradition[/size]

03/28/2007
By Mike Colbert

Amy Dugas, on probation for a 2004 domestic assault, was arrested in Tennessee on March 19 after allegedly assaulting her husband of three weeks. She is in a Rutherford County jail awaiting extradition to Maine.

The man, Brian K. Pelletier, is a former corrections officer at the Two Bridges Regional Jail in Wiscasset.

[url=http://www.mainelincolncountynews.com/index.cfm?ID=24187]source[/url]

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An aside to AMGers on the issue of "character evidence".

While "character" evidence isn't admissible to show purely, that "because he did it before, he'll do it again", the federal rule, which mirrors the commentary and case law on the Maine rule, states

"It may, however, be admissible for other purposes, such as proof of motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, or absence of mistake or accident, provided that upon request by the accused, the prosecution in a criminal case shall provide reasonable notice in advance of trial, or during trial if the court excuses pretrial notice on good cause shown, of the general nature of any such evidence it intends to introduce at trial."

The feds also [u]expressly[/u] allow (and I betcha the Maine precedent probably allows - don't have my Field & Murray here at home):

"In a criminal case, and subject to the limitations imposed by Rule 412, evidence of a pertinent trait of character of the alleged victim of the crime offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the same, or evidence of a character trait of peacefulness of the alleged victim offered by the prosecution in a homicide case to rebut evidence that the alleged victim was the first aggressor."

NOW WITH THAT SAID:

I still do not believe that the judge was wrong in his call. Anything that smells like character evidence will likely generate an appeal, unlesss offered by the defense. Everybody seemed to think the case was pretty straightforward, and going the way of the prosecution.

In such a case, you want to be sure that the defendant does NOT have the basis for an appeal. If you think the jury is "getting it", you make the little rulings in favor of the defendant, so that she has no appellate option.

So, in the end, that's what many of the posters here do not get. MAYBE the judge could have gotten away with letting in the evidence, without it having been considered inadmissible and prejudicial character evidence. However, it would risk the integrity of a pretty solid case to let such evidence in, especially in the face of everything else.

To some degree, both Dan and the other posters are correct. The ruling is what we call a "discretion call", and the judge made it consistent with one who wants to see the guilty punished without possibility of appeal.

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[quote="thejohnchapman"] The ruling is what we call a "discretion call" [/quote]

Thank you, John.

Had a man killed his wife in this manner and gotten away with it - then been found charged again and again of assault - it would have been blathered all day long over the Portland Press Herald until you were sick of it.

But the feminists have a big investment in telling us that domestic violence isn't an issue that affects men. As a matter of fact a few years ago when stats were published that more and more women were being arrested for domestic violence nowadays - about a third, the radical feminists came out critical of the police - for arresting the wrong person! I'd think it would be the person doing the assaulting who would be guilty of violence - but the fems don't see it that way.

Oh, did I say: "If a man had killed his wife and gotten away with it..."? Sorry. How absurd. That social privilege is available only for women. Because all we hear are lies that feminists tell us about domestic violence "More women are assaulted on Superbowl Sunday than any other day," etc, repeated by the lazy MSM without checking to see if they are true or now, we wouldn't have created a society that can produce juries incapable of seeing what is right in front of them.

Anyway, if you have been following this story - read the Lincoln County article. It is amazing.

Any peep of this in the Press Herald?

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Tom:

I'd say the judge read the jury wrong. YOU obviously do not think it was even close, and apparently, neither did anybody outside the jury room, AND THEY ALSO knew what had been presented to the jury.

I think the jury had a collective brain fart. It happens. They believed somebody who should have been viewed as a person who would say anything to get off a murder charge.

PS: Per your earlier post, here is what they DID hear:

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[b]Since Hutson was inside the house at the time of the stabbing, the prosecution called him as a witness.

"As difficult as it is to bring a child into the process," LaRochelle told jurors, "we feel he has evidence." [/b]
During the examination Hutson referred to Mark Dugas as "dad."

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[b]The child was in the house when the fight was going on. The child was not afraid of Mark, but instead followed Mark, crying as Mark ran to a neighbor's house and collapsed, dying shortly thereafter.

Mark was not the violent one that afternoon. [/b]Nor was he the violent one when Amy was arrested and bailed out for assaulting him montsh earlier. Nor was he the violent one when the police showed up on that fateful afternoon and Amy fought them viciously, still in the throes of one of her patented blind rages, biting one officer and damaging the inside of the patrol car.

Nor was he the violent one during this most recent episode when Amy was arrested for assaulting her new boyfriend.
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So, the jury DID hear that Mark wasn't the violent one that very afternoon, from one who was in the house, and not charged. The kid was presumably unbiased. Did they hear of the fight with deputies when they arrived? If they did, I'd say that they pretty much got the basics well under their belt.

I don't see what it adds to hear "she was nasty a bunch of other times" after hearing about what actually went down that day, from those without a dog in the fight.

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This case is larger than a "brain fart" or an unskillful application of justice.

There is a social mentality that men, and only men, are abusers - and women, and only women, are victims. We get a very powerful message about that from the feminists which is cheerfully amplified by the MSM. That created a blind spot in the jury's perception when looking at this case.

There are psychological phenomena that cause this type of "alternate reality" to exist in a collective mind even when the evidence clearly shows the opposite to be the true situation. Without mapping out where we are and how we got here - this is one of those situations.

One thing to clarify - I think from your excerpt above "The child was in the house..." onward was MY commentary, not what the jury heard. I have some personal knowledge of the case, but only share was is already in the media somewhere. As I recall the child didn't view the actual assault but was in the next room.

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WISCASSET -Acquitted defendant faced with new charge

Tom:

Long ago, when I started trying cases back in the 80's, we used to be able, without any special permission, to ask the jurors just what it was they were thinking, and why they ruled as they did. We can't anymore.

Had that been done, who knows what they would have said. I know that sometimes jurors give interviews after trials, but I am not aware of any re this particular case. Perhaps you are.

PS: Not disputing the presence of bias in favor of women. However, I personally, without more, don't know enough to be satisfied that was driving the bus in this NG verdict.

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WISCASSET -Acquitted defendant faced with new charge

Folks have spoken to the jurors - it being small towns and all. One juror expressed horror and guilt about findng out more about the case.

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WISCASSET -Acquitted defendant faced with new charge

What are the rules concerning jurors making statements after a trial is concluded? Is there a mandatory time they can't speak to the press?

I know I've seen some interesting programs recently with jurors from high-profile murder trials, who gave group interviews on their particular case, and what it did to them and their lives. Many of those folks are in counseling, as a result of gruesome photos they had to see over and over, and the horrendous details of testimony that went on sometimes for months. Some have even received death threats, due to some wacko disapproving of the verdict they handed down.

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