Memo to UPS Drivers: No Left Turns

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Bob MacGregor
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[quote].... parcel carrier has technology in its systems that help map this out routes that minimize the number of left turns the driver has to make. According to spokesperson Steve Holmes, avoiding left turns at intersections reduces idling which in turn lowers fuel consumption. "It seems small, but when you multiply it across 88,0000 vehicles making nearly 15 million deliveries every day during the course of a year, it adds up."
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[url=http://multichannelmerchant.com/opsandfulfillment/advisor/fuel_conserve/... make it tough to get out of my driveway[/url]

Al Greenlaw
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I have tried the "no left turn method", but I always seem to be going in circles. :lol:

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Naran
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Yeah - God forbid they have to wait a minute before barrelling through whatever intersection they're in. The way some of those drivers behave in traffic, it's a wonder there aren't more major UPS accidents every year.

Come to think of it, anybody got stats?

EJ
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Better title,

UPS Avoids the Left.

E

Naran
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UPS [i]REFUSES[/i] to Go Left.

:mrgreen:

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Right-leaning Multi-National Corporation Plots Takeover of Christmas.

Naran
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Indeed - I've always been verryyyyy suspicious of the brown uniforms.

Dennis
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We can all laugh, but I bet that in metropolitan areas they can set up routes that will save considerable time for the company as a whole and time is money.

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I got out of a ticket once by telling a policeman I took two lefts in succession....plus I saved a couple hundred yards of fuel mileage.

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[quote="Naran"]Yeah - God forbid they have to wait a minute before barrelling through whatever intersection they're in. The way some of those drivers behave in traffic, it's a wonder there aren't more major UPS accidents every year.

Come to think of it, anybody got stats?[/quote]

UPS drivers do NOT have an above average accident record.

UPS, the company, is the most tech-savy company
our planet has ever seen.
They use computers to do the stuff that computers
should indeed be used for...
like mapping out delivery routes to avoid time-consuming left turns.
Do the multiplication yourself...
ten minutes a day of saved time and saved gas
times 250 days
times thousands and thousands of UPS trucks on the road.

This is what computers are for.

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[quote="JustSayNo"]...Do the multiplication yourself...[/quote]
Just think of all the time they save by parking in the middle of the street.

Bob MacGregor
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How will the no-left-turn policy affect the NASCAR UPS car?

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Good one Bob... lol lol

Doug Thomas
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Do you suppose we could hire them to fix DHHS computers?

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UPS is one of the most cost-effective delivery companies on the earth. This sort of thing is an example why. If only we could realize the same dedication to cost-cutting in State government - we would all be better off

Bob MacGregor
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I agree. Memo to all you folks driving state vehicles; please eliminate all left turns in your daily travels.

Naran
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Judging from the ones driving around here, I'd say there are two reasons UPS doesn't have a worse-that-average record - 1) the other drivers on the road have good reflexes; and 2) The Grace of God.

Fed X is no better - they all drive too fast most of the time, from what I see.

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Naran, I was told this by a UPS driver. he said this right turn program saves UPS 600 hundred million dollars a year and reduces the risk of accidents, a good majority of accidents are in left turn situations. Would you like them to discontinue this program and pass the cost on to us?

Naran
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Robert - I haven't commented on the left-turn program, and have no particular concerns with it, as long as they implement it safely.

My concern is with the excessive speed I see consistently displayed by many of their drivers. Those trucks are far too large and heavy to be driven as if they were a Mini Cooper.

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[quote="Naran"] My concern is with the excessive speed I see consistently displayed by many of their drivers. [/quote]

Naran, are you sure it is not a psychological thing? A big truck, a loud engine in an aluminum box. Sound and looks like in is going faster than it actually is? Are you upset because they had plenty of room to pull out in front of you, and did? Do you have any statistics about UPS's safety record?

Just a note; Estimates of 41,000 to 45,000 traffic deaths occur every year within the U.S.. Walkers and bikers account for 15% of the total traffic deaths each year. Fewer than 9% of those deaths involve commercial vehicles. More than 80% of those accidents are the fault of the non-commercial driver. Of those death related accidents only 4% of trucks are fatigue related. Drinking related accounted for .06% of those accidents.

Robert
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By the way Naran, could you please give me the legal definition of "excessive speed?"

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Robert - please. I didn't just fall off the delivery truck yesterday, thou knowest. I know the difference between a large truck doing 45, and a large truck doing 35, or 25.

Are you a UPS or Fed X driver, or do you have a family member who is?

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Robert - I'm not a lawyer, so I cannot give you the [i]legal definition[/i] of "excessive speed." That would depend upon the speed limit in the particular location of the violation.

However, I surely do [i]know it [/i]when I see it.

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[quote="Naran"]Robert - please. I didn't just fall off the delivery truck yesterday, thou knowest. I know the difference between a large truck doing 45, and a large truck doing 35, or 25.[/quote]

I am glad you can, because I cannot. And most people cannot. They would get terminated for the behavior that you imply. Sound and size plays a big part in perception. Are you one of those people who feels that perception (your perception) is reality? I am not trying to be a jerk here Naran, but I do not believe you have the ability to look at a vehicle and state how fast is going. Sure wouldn't hold up in court.

[quote="Naran"]
Are you a UPS or Fed X driver, or do you have a family member who is?[/quote]

The answer is no, no, and no.

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[quote="Naran"]Robert - I'm not a lawyer, so I cannot give you the [i]legal definition[/i] of "excessive speed." [/quote]

So if you do not even know the definition of "excessive speed", how can you legitimately accuse someone of it?

Naran
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All I know is what I've seen over the years. Those companies put a lot of pressure on the drivers to complete their routes within a certain time period (I know people who are drivers for UPS), and I have consistently seen many of the trucks going too fast in locations where they shouldn't be. It's that simple.

They're not the only companies whose drivers use excessive speed, to be sure. They just happen to be some of the most visible.

Naran
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How does one "know" excessive speed when one sees it?

Next time some teen driver uses your street for Nascar practice, you let me know if you can figure it out.

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[quote="Robert"]Walkers and bikers account for 15% of the total traffic deaths each year.[/quote]
How many more!?!?!

"No left turn unstoned." - [url=http://www.intrepidtrips.com/pranksters/neal/neal2.html][i]Neal Cassady[/i][/url]

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I will occasionally (when feeling depressed and suicidal) saddle up my horse and go for a ride down the side of our "country" road. I go super early in the morning or midday when there is usually little to no traffic, stay off the pavement and on the shoulder/woods, and I alsways travel in direction of traffic, as technically we are a moving vehicle and have to obey the law. I always give a smile and a wave to let drivers know I'm not a hoity toity Jackie-O type, although most don't see me because they have a cup of coffee in one hand and a phone in the other and are driving with their knees.

The only type of vehicle that has ever slowed down or even moved over a little if the horse seems nervous has been the local oil delivery guy. Not even my sweet neighbors or even the school bus drivers who drive their buses home have dared to slow down even the littlest bit. The local UPS driver(s) I swear were Khamakazi pilots in a former life. They do not decrease speed when encountering an oncoming vehicle would rather kicking up dirt from the shoulder of the road than slow down a tad. I work from home and my little office window looks out at the street. I see it every day and every night. Most everyone thinks they are Ricky Craven around these parts and it scares the bejeebers out of me. I moved to the country to take it down a notch but everyone is always rush rush rush, and the sad part is they don't seem to realize [b]they are operating heavy equipment that kills[/b].

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[quote="Naran"]It's that simple.[/quote]

Presenting your opinion as fact, is not that simple. :roll: You have nothing to back up your claims, other than your perception. Now if you gave me some safety statistics from UPS to back your claims, that would be simple.

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[i]*...resisting the urge to define what I REALLY think of as "simple".....*[/i]

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